Marka: DACIA
Model: Sandero Stepway
Silnik: TCe 90
Rocznik: XII 2017
Wersja: Outdoor Pomógł: 105 razy Dołączył: 01 Cze 2017 Posty: 3625 Skąd: Warszawa
Wysłany: 2020-01-22, 10:07
effesse72 napisał/a:
I have inside the cover of the OBD2 port 2 pins connected together, see into your cover...
OK - I already know what you mean. There is no difference. The cover can be closed or open - BIC will work. At the beginning I also used BIC connected to a normal OBD plug.
The bridge in the cover connects unused pins...
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Ostatnio zmieniony przez Dymek 2020-01-22, 10:50, w całości zmieniany 2 razy
I have inside the cover of the OBD2 port 2 pins connected together, see into your cover...
OK - I already know what you mean. There is no difference. The cover can be closed or open - BIC will work. At the beginning I also used BIC connected to a normal OBD plug.
Ok, now I understood, many thanks again for all your support.
I have inside the cover of the OBD2 port 2 pins connected together, see into your cover...
OK - I already know what you mean. There is no difference. The cover can be closed or open - BIC will work. At the beginning I also used BIC connected to a normal OBD plug.
Ok, now I understood, many thanks again for all your support.
...but it seems to me that there is a bridge between the Pin No. 16 and the Pin No. 6 and for me it's not normal to short the +12Vcc to the CAN Bus
By the way Dymek, if I will strip the wires, as you did in your previous photos, to solder 6 wires on those that carry the signals to the ODB2 socket, is it better to disconnect the battery of the machine to avoid burning some ECU? Thank you very much again for everthing, best regards, Stefano.
I have inside the cover of the OBD2 port 2 pins connected together, see into your cover...
OK - I already know what you mean. There is no difference. The cover can be closed or open - BIC will work. At the beginning I also used BIC connected to a normal OBD plug.
The bridge in the cover connects unused pins...
Hi Dymek, do you know where I can find the pinout of the 24 pin socket of the BIC?
I wonder if I have to feed some wires also from the Medianav Evo and other pins of the BIC.
Thank you so much again.
Ostatnio zmieniony przez effesse72 2020-01-22, 21:15, w całości zmieniany 1 raz
Marka: DACIA
Model: Sandero Stepway
Silnik: TCe 90
Rocznik: XII 2017
Wersja: Outdoor Pomógł: 105 razy Dołączył: 01 Cze 2017 Posty: 3625 Skąd: Warszawa
Wysłany: 2020-01-23, 15:26
effesse72 napisał/a:
... if I will strip the wires, as you did in your previous photos, to solder 6 wires on those that carry the signals to the ODB2 socket, is it better to disconnect the battery of the machine to avoid burning some ECU?
It's always safer after disconnecting the battery. But I didn't disconnect the battery. I worked very safely - I soldered and insulated the wires separately, one wire and then the next wire ... etc.
Each pin was removed from the OBD socket to install the heat shrink tube because I didn't want to cut the wires.
That's why I stripped off all the cable insulation.
effesse72 napisał/a:
do you know where I can find the pinout of the 24 pin socket of the BIC?
I don't have the full pinout for the BIC module. I only know these 6 pins.
... if I will strip the wires, as you did in your previous photos, to solder 6 wires on those that carry the signals to the ODB2 socket, is it better to disconnect the battery of the machine to avoid burning some ECU?
It's always safer after disconnecting the battery. But I didn't disconnect the battery. I worked very safely - I soldered and insulated the wires separately, one wire and then the next wire ... etc.
Each pin was removed from the OBD socket to install the heat shrink tube because I didn't want to cut the wires.
That's why I stripped off all the cable insulation.
effesse72 napisał/a:
do you know where I can find the pinout of the 24 pin socket of the BIC?
I don't have the full pinout for the BIC module. I only know these 6 pins.
Ok, I understood, thank you very much again for everything. Have a nice evening.
I have inside the cover of the OBD2 port 2 pins connected together, see into your cover...
OK - I already know what you mean. There is no difference. The cover can be closed or open - BIC will work. At the beginning I also used BIC connected to a normal OBD plug.
The bridge in the cover connects unused pins...
Yes, UNUSED pins, now I read well and I can see. Sorry and T.I.A. again!
I have inside the cover of the OBD2 port 2 pins connected together, see into your cover...
OK - I already know what you mean. There is no difference. The cover can be closed or open - BIC will work. At the beginning I also used BIC connected to a normal OBD plug.
The bridge in the cover connects unused pins...
Yes, UNUSED pins, now I read well and I can see. Sorry and T.I.A. again!
Btw dear Dymek, the connection to talk with the BIC using ELM327 (I'm using now a WiFi model with 18F25K80 chip) has to be only do to the ODB2 port in the glove box by means of 4 wires? 16, 4 (power supply), and 6, 14 (CAN signals) ? It will be enough to start DDT4ALL software, choose the ECU and go ahead until BIC A2/A3 v24 ?
Marka: DACIA
Model: Sandero Stepway
Silnik: TCe 90
Rocznik: XII 2017
Wersja: Outdoor Pomógł: 105 razy Dołączył: 01 Cze 2017 Posty: 3625 Skąd: Warszawa
Wysłany: 2020-01-24, 14:10
effesse72 napisał/a:
... the connection to talk with the BIC using ELM327 (I'm using now a WiFi model with 18F25K80 chip) has to be only do to the ODB2 port in the glove box by means of 4 wires? 16, 4 (power supply), and 6, 14 (CAN signals) ? It will be enough to start DDT4ALL software, choose the ECU and go ahead until BIC A2/A3 v24 ?
The connections between the ELM plug and CAN2 socket in the glove box must be crossed:
ELM PIN - OBD2 PIN
4 - 4
6 - 13
14 - 12
16 - 16
DDT4ALL Path: ECU Name - MIU - BICA2/A3v24 - Screen RDBI/WDBI - Configuration - Vehicle environment - Script 14 LINK
Ostatnio zmieniony przez Dymek 2020-01-24, 14:18, w całości zmieniany 2 razy
... the connection to talk with the BIC using ELM327 (I'm using now a WiFi model with 18F25K80 chip) has to be only do to the ODB2 port in the glove box by means of 4 wires? 16, 4 (power supply), and 6, 14 (CAN signals) ? It will be enough to start DDT4ALL software, choose the ECU and go ahead until BIC A2/A3 v24 ?
The connections between the ELM plug and CAN2 socket in the glove box must be crossed:
ELM PIN - OBD2 PIN
4 - 4
6 - 13
14 - 12
16 - 16
DDT4ALL Path: ECU Name - MIU - BICA2/A3v24 - Screen RDBI/WDBI - Configuration - Vehicle environment - Script 14 LINK
Than you again Dymek, I will try again in this weekend
... the connection to talk with the BIC using ELM327 (I'm using now a WiFi model with 18F25K80 chip) has to be only do to the ODB2 port in the glove box by means of 4 wires? 16, 4 (power supply), and 6, 14 (CAN signals) ? It will be enough to start DDT4ALL software, choose the ECU and go ahead until BIC A2/A3 v24 ?
The connections between the ELM plug and CAN2 socket in the glove box must be crossed:
ELM PIN - OBD2 PIN
4 - 4
6 - 13
14 - 12
16 - 16
DDT4ALL Path: ECU Name - MIU - BICA2/A3v24 - Screen RDBI/WDBI - Configuration - Vehicle environment - Script 14 LINK
Than you again Dymek, I will try again in this weekend
Good morning Dymek, today I'm trying this way:
The Pin 4 and 5 of the OBD2 port (the yellow and orange of the splitter) are soldered together and go to the Pin 12 of the BIC connector
Thank you very much again for all the support yu gave to me!
... the connection to talk with the BIC using ELM327 (I'm using now a WiFi model with 18F25K80 chip) has to be only do to the ODB2 port in the glove box by means of 4 wires? 16, 4 (power supply), and 6, 14 (CAN signals) ? It will be enough to start DDT4ALL software, choose the ECU and go ahead until BIC A2/A3 v24 ?
The connections between the ELM plug and CAN2 socket in the glove box must be crossed:
ELM PIN - OBD2 PIN
4 - 4
6 - 13
14 - 12
16 - 16
DDT4ALL Path: ECU Name - MIU - BICA2/A3v24 - Screen RDBI/WDBI - Configuration - Vehicle environment - Script 14 LINK
And finally..... I did it! I had to rewrite script 14 on the BIC also connecting Pin 2 to + 12Vcc. By connecting this Pin 2 to + 12Vcc I had noticed (see 3rd photo) that some data had already appeared on the Medianav Evo, but as the script 6 was wrong, the temperature was not shown yet. After changing the script from 6 to 14 After this I disconnected the OBD2 interface from the port, I removed the cable for the additional + 12Vcc, disconnected and reconnected the OBD2 splitter and everything remained functional! Many thanks to our great friend Dymek !!!
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Ostatnio zmieniony przez effesse72 2020-01-25, 17:56, w całości zmieniany 1 raz
What about temperature display? I can only see the lines ...
Dear friend Dymek, I took those pictures only after connecting Pin 2 to +12Vcc and before reprogramming to Script 14, very sorry, I forgot to show them with explanations. Now I have to study hard for implement the Temp of Coolant of Engine (I don't like the little vertical bars) and 4WD Inclination Data, if it will be possible
Dear Dymek, btw, if I would like to write my car VIN into the BIC, it is necessary to reconnect the Pin n.2 to Pin n.3? And also, will I have to compute the CRC manually or can I copy it from the Engine ECU?
Thank you again for all your deep support, best regards, Stefano.
Ostatnio zmieniony przez laisar 2021-06-03, 23:43, w całości zmieniany 1 raz
Marka: DACIA
Model: Sandero Stepway
Silnik: TCe 90
Rocznik: XII 2017
Wersja: Outdoor Pomógł: 105 razy Dołączył: 01 Cze 2017 Posty: 3625 Skąd: Warszawa
Wysłany: 2020-02-08, 14:08
effesse72 napisał/a:
I would like to write my car VIN into the BIC, it is necessary to reconnect the Pin n.2 to Pin n.3? And also, will I have to compute the CRC manually or can I copy it from the Engine ECU?
Certainly every change of parameters requires connecting the power supply to Pin 2. But I have never dealt with entering VIN into BIC. I only changed the script number.
Ostatnio zmieniony przez Dymek 2020-02-08, 14:09, w całości zmieniany 1 raz
I would like to write my car VIN into the BIC, it is necessary to reconnect the Pin n.2 to Pin n.3? And also, will I have to compute the CRC manually or can I copy it from the Engine ECU?
Certainly every change of parameters requires connecting the power supply to Pin 2. But I have never dealt with entering VIN into BIC. I only changed the script number.
Thank you very much again dear friend Dymek for all your support.
After a few days spent studying how to install SL4A and PY4A thanks to my old chinese tablet with Androind 4.2 I managed to run the Pyclip v.1.82 full scripts with my Wi-Fi interface (this tablet does not have Bluetooth). I managed to read the BIC data (VIN + CRC) and to change it with that of my Sandero II Stepway, naturally as suggested by Dymek, it was necessary to reset Pin 2 of the BIC to + 12Vcc.
Ostatnio zmieniony przez laisar 2021-06-03, 23:45, w całości zmieniany 2 razy
Can you tell me if the BIC 283467937R is compatible with my Logan from 2020? It's from Twingo III. I guess that yes.
From what i understand, i must change the Script to 14 because 14 is Dacia. I do it with DDT4ALL ?
I must build the link on ODB and connect it to the car and make programmation? How should i do?
Thanks !
How can i do it? In France it's facebook page where one person know a lot about it but don't share his information.. egoist person.. With Google translate on the last pages of this topic i know even more than this boy give for free.....
Ostatnio zmieniony przez Remi 2020-07-24, 17:52, w całości zmieniany 1 raz
Witam serdecznie wszystkich specjalistów z forum, mam ten sam problem co Remi, podpiołem BIC pod OBD, zwarłem pin 2 z 3 tak aby podać napięcie do BIC aby był widoczny w ddt4all i nie mam żadnych danych i nie mogę nic zapisać do BIC, czy ktoś może pomóc.
Witam serdecznie wszystkich specjalistów z forum, mam ten sam problem co Remi, podpiołem BIC pod OBD, zwarłem pin 2 z 3 tak aby podać napięcie do BIC aby był widoczny w ddt4all i nie mam żadnych danych i nie mogę nic zapisać do BIC, czy ktoś może pomóc.
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Thank you very much again for everthing, best regards, Stefano. 
